senior bills, affect seniors, when george w. bush signed no child left behind there were children there. how is this any different than any other piece of legislation that affects a group that has particular interest and the group is present when the signing takes place? martha: yeah. >> or when the announcement takes place. martha: the children wrote letters to the president, tucker. and they have been asked to stand by him. they're having their voices heard in america. what is wrong with that? >> well, this is not, this is very serious, very adult and incredibly complicated issue and to bring children on stage is to engage in a kind of moral blackmail. if you're against this legislation you're against the kids. the truth is, no serious person who knows anything about crime noll dpi or violence in our violence in the society believes banning weapons based on their cosmetic qualities is going to save a single life. it is ludicrous. even the white house is not claiming that the so-called assault weapons boon would have prevented